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The ECGs:
Examine the 2 ECGs here, and determine who went to the cath lab, and who was "fixed" in room 4 in the ED. To make this simple, both were middle-aged males with chest pressure starting about 1 hour before calling EMS.
Patient #1:
Patient #2:
The computer seems so darn certain about patient #2, but gets all insecure about committing on patient #1. Discussion just below.
Discussion:
Patient #1 was brought into the Connecticut hospital that "rhymes with ale" by my friend Josh up at the New Haven AMR station. Not content with the computer's waffling, he called it in as a STEMI alert, despite the computer's lack of support!!
Well, good call. Turns out there was a proximal LAD occlusion, and calling the alert in the field shaved off a good chunk of time.
As for patient #2... The ED ECG was:
So, now we have 2 machines telling us *** IN ALL CAPS *** to get this patient to a cath lab. We did not send him there.
We noted that his pressure was low-ish (around 100 systolic) when he hit the door. ALS had given him a fluid bolus (Thanks Jack!), so we tried another 500 ml of NS. Interestingly, the heart rate stayed at 154 the whole time. And then his blood pressure dropped down to the 80s. What to do?
Hint. |
A narrow-complex tachycardia, with a rate somewhere between 135 and 165, that doesn't vary by more than 2-3 beats/minute, is atrial flutter.Sinus tachycardia will vary depending on activity, fluid therapy, or even breathing. PSVT will usually be a bit faster. AF and MAT will be irregular.
A couple elements of the history that, while not essential to making the ECG diagnosis, are supportive. He had had a recent episode of atrial fibrillation that was apparently provoked by cocaine use, and had been easily treated with diltiazem. He came in this time after some coke adventures as well, as well as some emotional downturns.
So, instead of diltiazem, he got propofol and 50 joules (synchronized). His next ECG was this:
The blood pressure also came up, thankfully. In case you were feeling unsatisfied by the lack of an obvious sawtooth pattern, he had an episode the next day of 4:1 atrial flutter.
Aaah, closure |
Bottom line:
You need to read the ECG. While it is prudent to consider the computer interpretation, it is a sign of true wisdom to judge the interpretation against your own reading. One small, interesting study highlights this element.
In one study, medical residents, both emergency and internal medicine, were shown this ECG.
(The actual patient who had this ECG was sent to the cath lab from the ED, and had the computer interpretation shown. She had clean arteries, and was determined to have pericarditis.)
Some of the ECGs had no computer interpretation attached, while others had an ** ** ACUTE MI ** ** alert attached. The residents who were given the ECG with the ** MI ** interpretation were more likely to send the patient to the cath lab. They conclude that:
The presence of CI reading affected the aggressiveness of the recommended action, even though this was not reflected in the interpretation of the ECG. In other words, the computer reading did not affect the residents’ ECG interpretation; it affected what the residents believed they would do about the ECG reading.So, the computer interpretation will affect your interpretation - anticipate this, and incorporate this into your own thinking. Don't discard the information, but don't let it run roughshod over your judgment.
When in doubt, call med control to discuss the context, and we'll meet you in room 5!
Amen!
ReplyDeleteYou know the GE Marquette 12SL algorithm is confounded about the rhythm when it reads "Unusual P-wave axis" and "ectopic atrial activity". It's good to check your limb leads in that case (many of the possible limb lead mix-ups will cause that message).
And while I'm thinking about it, the GE Marquette 12SL (in your LP12's and Zoll M/E-Series monitors) is very bad at Acute MI messages when the patient is tachycardic! So take it with a big grain of salt if the rate is greater than about 110 bpm.
DeleteThe Marquette algorithm seems to be easily confused by many things. Tachycardia is one of them. My experience is also that the algorithm "sees" ST changes when there are none to be seen.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention the frequent "data quality prevents interpretation".
Good call on patient #1. It's not uncommon to see this sort of tachycardia in cocaine users. Personally, I'd have opted for Versed for this patient. That alone could "break" the atrial rhythm, as illogical as it would seem. We've used it in the field on more than one occasion.
Lastly, the ECG by itself is rarely diagnostic. It's more commonly confirmatory and the diagnosis is made based on history and physical exam.
Again, that's based on my experience, others experience might vary.
Last ECG:
ReplyDeleteThough, the machine calculated 28 degrees, I think the patient has indeterminate axis, where the average QRS vector is zero in all limb leads. This is a normal variant.
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